I'm still in shock! Are these aircraft found buried in ice, more than 3,000 years old -- or what? This news comes from the man who had the experience, Dr Kent Hovind. I think you'll enjoy it.

"You're kidding!" laughed the lab worker. "Only 4,400 years ago!"

"Yes," quipped Kent. "The surface of this whole planet was remodelled by the Flood only 4,400 years ago."

"No way! In case you don't know, Dr. Hovind, I work at the Denver National Ice Core Laboratory here in Colorado. And we've been taking cores of ice from Greenland and Antarctica. It's dry, very cold, the glaciers are MILES THICK, but their annual growth rings are very THIN."

He paused to observe Kent's reaction. Then he thrust home. "We've measured the ice, and I tell you, man, it's 135,000 years old! Your 4,000 years is a joke."

"I'd like to see your lab," said Kent, calmly.

The next day my friend Kent met the worker at the lab.

The employee ushered him into the giant freezer which stored the long cores from ice drilling.

"See this core from Greenland?" said the worker. "We drilled down and brought it up from 10,000 feet. See the rings? This core takes us back 135,000 years. You'll notice the rings along its length, dark -- light -- dark -- light.

"Well, these represent annual rings, because in summer the top layer of snow melts and then re-freezes as clear ice, which shows up dark here. In winter, the snow doesn't get a chance to melt, so it packs -- and shows up as a white layer. These layers of dark -- light -- dark -- light, indicate 135,000 summers and winters."

Hovind looked him in the eye. "Aren't you assuming those are annual rings?"

Let's step back a few years, to the famous lost squadron.


In 1942, during World War II, some war planes landed in Greenland. When the war ended, those planes were left there and forgotten.

In 1990, an aircraft enthusiast came up with the bright idea to find them and fly them off again.

He organized a group and they went searching. As it turned out, they had to use radar, because the planes were under the ice, in fact, so deep under the ice, the men had a hard job finding them. Do you know, that lost squadron had got covered by 263 feet of ice in 48 years!

Let's do some arithmetic. 
* 263 feet divided by 48 years, that's an ice growth of about 5.5 feet per year.
* Now divide 10,000 feet by 5.5. And you get 1,824 years for ALL of the ice to build up.

We should allow longer for the fact that the deeper ice is pressed into finer layers.

Note: those planes did not sink into the ice, due to pressure on the ice. The ice had grown OVER them.


Okay, would you do some math? Can you work this out? The Denver National Ice Core Laboratory said that 10,000 feet of ice had to be 135,000 years old! So the 263 feet deep of "Lost Squadron" ice - how old should that be? That's right, 3,419 years old.

Does that mean those aircraft are 3,419 years old? What do you think?


In April, 1999, Kent visited Bob Cardin at his museum in Middleboro, Kentucky.  Cardin had dug out and was restoring the P-38.

You may be wondering, how did they get that plane out? Ingenious. They had melted a hole down to the airplane, broken it apart and brought up the pieces through the hole.

"When you dug it out," asked Kent, "did you see any layers of ice, dark -- light -- dark --

"Yeah, I did, as a matter of fact."
"How many layers of ice were there?"
"Many hundreds of them."


"How could there be many hundreds of annual rings in only 48 years?"


That's not summer and winter," replied Cardin.  " It's warm -- cold -- warm -- cold -- warm --cold. You can get ten of those in one day."

And that's a fact! Yet, the scientific elite was still calling them annual rings in 1998. (See Scientific American, February 1998, p.82). Somebody's either ignorant, or lying.

I'm worried. The textbooks you read today are textbooks not only about science, but about evolution. They're trying to sneak evolution in with the science.

Sneaking beer ads in with football matches doesn't mean beer is football. Sneaking evolution in with the science, doesn't make it science.

Warm regards
Jonathan Gray

International explorer, archaeologist and author
Jonathan Gray has traveled the world to gather data on
ancient mysteries. He has penetrated some largely
unexplored areas, including parts of the Amazon
headwaters. The author has also led expeditions to
the bottom of the sea and to remote mountain and desert
regions of the world. He lectures internationally.